{"id":5737,"date":"2013-04-13T13:06:29","date_gmt":"2013-04-13T17:06:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hookedonraw.com\/?page_id=5737"},"modified":"2013-04-13T13:06:29","modified_gmt":"2013-04-13T17:06:29","slug":"a-thread-about-acceptance-helpfulness-kindness-and-friendship-in-the-raw-community","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/hookedonraw.com\/?page_id=5737","title":{"rendered":"A Thread About Acceptance, Helpfulness, Kindness and Friendship in the Raw Community"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\n\n\n\n<p><em>May 10, 2002, de Vie wrote:<\/p>\n<p>\tHere&#39;s a recipe and some questions &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>\tsuper-invigorating warming circulation-improving drink:<\/p>\n<p>\t*cayenne (to taste)<br \/>\n\t*honey or other nutritious sweetener (not too much) <br \/>\n\t*spring water <br \/>\n\t*fresh squeezed lemon <br \/>\n\t*juice of ginger root &#8211; yum yum!<\/p>\n<p>\t(p.s. i assume cayenne powder is in fact &quot;raw&quot;? is honey also &quot;raw&quot;? Yes, I do know the non-vegan argument about it.)<\/p>\n<p>\t&#8211;other questions:<\/p>\n<p>\t-Can you sprout beans from just the regular dry beans you might buy in the bulk sections? <br \/>\n\t-Is soaking nuts only for aesthetic reasons, or is it for health reasons also? <br \/>\n\t-Is uncooked &quot;oat bran&quot; considered &quot;raw&quot;?<\/p>\n<p>\tde Vie<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\t******<\/p>\n<p>\t<em>From Keith:<\/p>\n<p>\twhat ever happened with keeping the system PURE and SWEET? doesn&#39;t anybody eat (almost) natural state food any longer? anybody legitimately RAW on this group??<br \/>\n\t<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\t******<\/p>\n<p>\t<em>In a message dated 5\/11\/02 7:32:55 AM, de Vie writes:<\/p>\n<p>\tKeith,<\/p>\n<p>\tI was very scared about joining any raw groups\/etc. because of exactly this, since I am not 100% raw and am relatively new to the doctrine &#8211; i.e., I was scared of *ELITISM*. I don&#39;t see what wasn&#39;t pure and sweet about my post, especially since I am trying to learn about Raw and certainly not putting anybody down at all. How are you going to attract more people to becoming fully Raw, if that&#39;s what you believe people should be, if you put down and disgrace someone who&#39;s trying to learn information about it??? It definitely doesn&#39;t make any sense to me. But I&#39;m sure you&#39;re the exception and not the rule, so I will still go on my merry way and try find some friendship in the raw community.<\/p>\n<p>\tde Vie<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\t******<br \/>\n\t<em><br \/>\n\tFrom Sean:<\/p>\n<p>\they keith-<\/p>\n<p>\tnot sure what your interpretation of &quot;pure and sweet&quot; may be, but for me it&#39;s more than just eating raw food brother. I&#39;ve learned that raw food is an amazing, powerful tool on a spiritual path, but the trap is that we often look for THE answer. It has more to do with MIND than diet. Paying attention to my thoughts is a full-time job itself, and diet does relate to what goes on in my head, that&#39;s why it&#39;s a great tool, but it won&#39;t solve the tendency to create disharmony in my life through undisciplined and negative thinking.<\/p>\n<p>\tA saying goes, thoughts create, what are you thinking, now choose.<\/p>\n<p>\tWishing you well-<\/p>\n<p>\tsean<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\t******<\/p>\n<p>\t<strong>From Rhio:<\/p>\n<p>\tDear de Vie,<\/p>\n<p>\tAs happens in any community, in the raw community you will find all kinds of people and all kinds of opinions. Some people are judgmental &#8212; but in my experience, most are very, very supportive, and will go out of their way to guide you or lend a hand.<\/p>\n<p>\tThere was nothing not pure and sweet about your recipe or questions.<\/p>\n<p>\tWe welcome you with open arms.<\/p>\n<p>\tWith blessings and peace,<\/p>\n<p>\tRhio<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t******<br \/>\n\t<em><br \/>\n\tde Vie wrote:<\/p>\n<p>\tThank you Rhio! I appreciate it! Have a great day.<\/p>\n<p>\t<\/em><br \/>\n\t******<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<em>From Judy: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com\" onclick=\"window.open(this.href, '', 'resizable=no,status=no,location=no,toolbar=no,menubar=no,fullscreen=no,scrollbars=no,dependent=no'); return false;\">www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\tI completely agree with Rhio. We in the raw community welcome everyone who is interested in trying raw foods. It can take a long time to transition, and it can be difficult because restaurants and family and friends often don&#39;t make it easy for us. But by supporting each other we can come a long way.<\/p>\n<p>\tPlease feel free to ask anything, even if you think it is silly. It&#39;s not!<\/p>\n<p>\tJudy<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\t******<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<em>In a message dated 5\/13\/02 8:44:04 AM, Keith wrote: {in answer to Sean above}<\/p>\n<p>\tYawnnnnnnnnnnnnn<\/p>\n<p>\tthanks for the insight. it&#39;s easy to be SPIRITUAL: one need only profess it. alot harder to be legitimately raw. &#39;quasi&#39; is better than &#39;pseudo&#39; but neither approach &#39;elemental&#39;<\/p>\n<p>\tmeditate on that<\/p>\n<p>\ti&#39;ll just eat.<\/p>\n<p>\tpeace<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\n\t******<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<strong>May 13, 2002, Rhio wrote:<\/p>\n<p>\tDear Keith,<\/p>\n<p>\tIf it was easy to BE spiritual we wouldn&#39;t be having this discussion.<\/p>\n<p>\tWe&#39;re really talking about acceptance. Acceptance of other people no matter where on the path to a raw food lifestyle they are. No one has to measure up to your standards, only their own. If people are eating a predominantly raw diet and occasionally include, for example, soaked wild rice, nutritional yeast, cayenne powder (which may or may not be dried at high temperatures), what&#39;s wrong with that? Why are you making such a fuss over it. You think people are fooling themselves? Then it would suffice just to say in a helpful way that these items are not raw, but not be so superior about it.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn my experience with the raw food lifestyle, I&#39;ve found that for myself and others the predominantly raw diet will, over time, lead people to a simplification. We don&#39;t have to preach it, we don&#39;t have to pressure it, we, most of all, do not have to speak in condescending tones &#8212; refining the diet and simplification is just something that happens naturally as the body becomes its own best ally in its quest for health.<\/p>\n<p>\tI don&#39;t buy your fake yawn. If the discussion was that boring &#8211; you wouldn&#39;t be continuing it. Why don&#39;t you reintegrate back into the harmony of the group by changing your attitude and being kinder in your responses? We are here to support you too &#8211; I&#39;m sure I don&#39;t speak just for myself.<\/p>\n<p>\tRhio<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\t******<\/p>\n<p>\t<em>In a message dated 05\/13\/2002 3:54:24 PM Albert writes:<\/p>\n<p>\tdear ones, this e-group is designed to be a place of support and encouragement. i see the necessary &quot;rubbing of stones&quot; happening here. whenever two or more stones are placed together (as we are in this group) any movement (our living-foods discussion) will cause the stones to rub against each other and begin to smooth out the sharpness. i pray our &quot;tumbling&quot; will in the end create many beautiful GEMS!<\/p>\n<p>\talbert<br \/>\n\t<\/em><br \/>\n\t******<\/p>\n<p>\t<em>Judy writes:<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks, Albert, very well put!<\/em><br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>< May 10, 2002, de Vie wrote: Here&#39;s a recipe and some questions &#8211; super-invigorating warming circulation-improving drink: *cayenne (to taste) *honey or other nutritious sweetener (not too much) *spring water *fresh squeezed lemon *juice of ginger root &#8211; yum &hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/hookedonraw.com\/?page_id=5737\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-5737","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.0.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&lt; May 10, 2002, de Vie wrote: Here&#039;s a recipe and some questions - super-invigorating warming circulation-improving drink: *cayenne (to taste) *honey or other nutritious sweetener (not too much) *spring water *fresh squeezed lemon *juice of ginger root - yum yum! 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